In an interview with Rachel Martin on NPR, former vice president Joe Biden said that he would not cooperate by testifying during the impeachment trial. Biden claims any efforts to compel him to testify should be seen as a distraction of the president’s conduct.

“No, I’m not going to let you take the eye off the ball here. Everybody knows what this is about,” said Biden. “This is a Trump gambit he plays. Whenever he’s in trouble he tries to find someone else to divert attention to.”

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs George Kent testified in the impeachment hearings that in 2015 he warned his staff about a possible conflict of interest, but he was told Biden didn’t have time to handle the situation because his other son Beau was suffering from brain cancer.

In the interview, Martin pressed Biden by stating, “You know it didn’t look good for Hunter Biden to be on that board, even if he did nothing wrong. The optics weren’t good. And you talk a lot about what it means to be a Biden and the integrity that is imbued in that family name. But there were former White House aides of yours who tried to warn you about the potential conflicts of interest.”

Biden replied, “Nobody warned me about a potential conflict of interest. Nobody warned me about that. And at the same time..”

Martin said, “George Kent, the State Department official, testified that he raised it to you, and your staff.”

Biden denied it, “No, he didn’t say me. He did not say me.” He added, “I never, never heard that once at all.”

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Here’s the entire interview, including Martin questioning Biden about his heated exchange with the Iowa man who he called “a damn liar.”

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Last week, President Trump tweeted that Joe and Hunter Biden would both be called to testify in a Senate impeachment trial. “We will have Schiff, the Bidens, Pelosi and many more testify, and will reveal, for the first time, how corrupt our system really is.”